Originally by: Noodly Appendage

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An increase in citadel torpedo velocity should be accompanied by a nerf in the torps hitpoints so as to not make them invincible to smartbombs.

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Originally by: Gloria Lewis

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Originally by: Tarminic

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My Suggestion, Very Simple:
1. Two turrets, two launchers
2. Remove 1 high, Remove 1 low
3. Add 2 mids
4. Two projectile bonuses

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My suggestion of 3 turrets, 3 launchers is better; not forcing the pilot to dual train

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Originally by: Gloria Lewis

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Originally by: Professor Dumbledore

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you idea has legs but it needs 6 mids not 7 lows its a shield tanker not armor. Also no other Dread gets a utility high why should the nag be any different.

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So it can remote rep the other dreadnaughts...
...it's in siege with
yeah give it 3 guns

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Originally by: T2Ibis

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Originally by: ImmortalKalo

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Originally by: Yorda

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• 2 gun slots 100% damage role bonus


• 5% shield boost amount instead of missile RoF


• 3/6/5


• +15% cpu

There I did your job for you.

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FO SHO

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3rded!

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Originally by: VoiceInTheDesert

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What part of "we're not going to rework the ship model for a third turret" are people in this thread having so much trouble with?

If people want pure projectile, propose a role bonus giving them the EQUIVALENT of three guns. Three turrets isn't happening and CCP has said that multiple times, a few times in this thread even.

ffs

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Originally by: Dibsi Dei

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Originally by: CCP Chronotis

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Tactical shield manipulation V pre-req makes us emo

It is true that this skill is not so useful and pretty much the only reason to train this skill to 5 is so you can use capital shield boosters. We are open to possibly changing this to shield management 5 (a skill most of you should have and find more useful) but this does not help those of you who have gone through the pain already, only potential future naglfar pilots or those who specifically armour tanked their ships only and might be branching towards the phoenix for example.

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But don't capital armor guys need to train armor compensations to V? So time spent is pretty much equal with the shields as they don't.

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Originally by: Verlokiraptor

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Edited by: Blane Xero on 10/05/2009 22:48:36
Make TSM increase the peak recharge zone (which is currently about 35-25%?) go all the way from 0%-35% at level 5. (20%-35% at one, 15%-35% at two, 10%-35% at three, 5%-35% at four, 0%-35% at five)

This effectively means a Passive shield tanked ship can regenerate just as well at 0% as an active tanked ship could, instead of the current "Past 30% all is lost"

And then you can rebalance Passive shield tanked ships while you're at it so that they tank on-par (or a little more/less as you see fit) with active tanked ships.

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While I will admit I haven't flown passive shield tanked ships, I would suggest a variation of this idea:
at level 1, peak recharge = 20-30% shields
level 2, 15-25% shields
level 3, 10-20% shields
level 4, 5-15% shields
level 5, 0-10% shields

The problem with Blane's suggestion is that then you have to chew through 35% of their shields at max recharge as opposed to 10% now! This solution avoids that problem, although it does somewhat the time you'll take to die after shields are down.

Presumably either the old effect would be maintained or bleedthrough would be removed altogether. If so, it would be a very desirable level 5 skill for passive tanking.

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Originally by: aldarrin

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Originally by: ian666

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Edited by: ian666 on 29/04/2009 18:04:55
what about slot layout and citadel torpedo explosion velocity

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Agreed. Explosion velocity is 3 m/s on sieged torps. that's an order of magnitude lower than the max transveral @ optimal of any of the other weapon systems.

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Originally by: Bronson Hughes

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The Moros loses about 30% of its DPS at about 55km due to the drone control limit. Yes, the Nag does lose more damage at 150km, but it gets to keep all of its weapons on target roughly 3x longer than a Moros can. Yes the Moros can do more damage at shorter ranges than the Naglfar can, but once you go beyond drone control range the Nag will beat it hands down. Guess what, that's pretty much the way it is with all Gallente and Minmatar ships. See my comment above regarding variety.

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Originally by: Bronson Hughes

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Edited by: Bronson Hughes on 15/05/2009 13:33:07

Originally by: Blane Xero

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Hello; Meet my 100km sentry drones.

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And how often do you fit a Drone Link Augmentor to your Moros? Because without it, your 100km sentry drones aren't shooting much past 55km. There's a reason why Curator IIs are popular with Moros pilots; Bouncer IIs and Warden IIs lose a lot of their range due to the drone control limit.

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Originally by: Bronson Hughes

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Edited by: Bronson Hughes on 15/05/2009 22:39:43

Originally by: Blane Xero

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To be honest from my understanding of Sentry drones, i was unde the impression that they were able to attack anything so long as the drones themselfs are within the 54-60km control range. If this is not the case, then i apologise. But if it is indeed as you say, then it needs to be looked at in my opinion. The control range makes sense for normal moving drones not being able to attack outside of control range (Because they, in turn, need to leave the control range to attack the target) but Sentries do not.

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As an avid Sentry Domi user, I can assure you that this is the case. Sentry Drones use the exact same logic as normal drones: they must be within drone control range, as must their targets, for any command to register. The only differences are the sniper-like stats and the very low speed. In fact, if you watch a sentry drone attacking a target long enough, you'll see that it is approaching it like any other drone albeit very slowly.

No apology necessary but I appreciate it nonetheless.

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